Neil Barraclough17 January at 22:25
Sharon with a grafted apricot at today's green grafting day, there could have been around 50 apricot varieties on Goodmans catalogue in 1914 and there is no trace of most of them today. Sharon brought in some scions from some very old un-named apricots, likely varieties no longer in circulation. Virtually all apricots are grown commercially north of the divide and the varieties available are mostly best suited to growing in the warmer, less humid conditions north of the d...ivide. Sharons trees won't live forever so hopefully we have done our bit today to keep them going.
Sharon with a grafted apricot at today's green grafting day, there could have been around 50 apricot varieties on Goodmans catalogue in 1914 and there is no trace of most of them today. Sharon brought in some scions from some very old un-named apricots, likely varieties no longer in circulation. Virtually all apricots are grown commercially north of the divide and the varieties available are mostly best suited to growing in the warmer, less humid conditions north of the d...ivide. Sharons trees won't live forever so hopefully we have done our bit today to keep them going.
Third picture is Laura with baby and an avocado grafted on the day, two of our members grew out some avocado's to share around. There are some cold tolerant seedling avocado's growing locally and future grafting days we hope to propagate from these. The fourth photo is a bag of apple and bag of pear rootstocks that have sat in sawdust left over from the grafting in August, being tried grafted ;with actively growing scion taken this morning and transplanted bare rooted, we'll see how we go, pessimists get more pleasant surprises. Peaches were also grafted on the day.
Everyone had a great day and the green grafting opens up a lot of possibilities. The methods similar to the other post on green grafting but as the rootstocks were all going into shade no alfoil was put over the grafts just a plastic press seal bag with the corner cut out.
Everyone had a great day and the green grafting opens up a lot of possibilities. The methods similar to the other post on green grafting but as the rootstocks were all going into shade no alfoil was put over the grafts just a plastic press seal bag with the corner cut out.
The second photo is some peaches, apricots and plums grown in pots for the day and shared out amongst those who wanted something grafted.
Third picture is Laura with baby and an avocado grafted on the day, two of our members grew out some avocado's to share around. There are some cold tolerant seedling avocado's growing locally and future grafting days we hope to propagate from these. The fourth photo is a bag of apple and bag of pear rootstocks that have sat in sawdust left over from the grafting in August, being tried grafted; with actively growing scion taken this morning and transplanted bare rooted, we'll see how we go, pessimists get more pleasant surprises. Peaches were also grafted on the day.
Everyone had a great day and the green grafting opens up a lot of possibilities. The methods similar to the other post on green grafting but as the rootstocks were all going into shade no alfoil was put over the grafts just a plastic press seal bag with the corner cut out.
Everyone had a great day and the green grafting opens up a lot of possibilities. The methods similar to the other post on green grafting but as the rootstocks were all going into shade no alfoil was put over the grafts just a plastic press seal bag with the corner cut out.
Julie Downey Brilliant :)
17 January at 22:31 ·
Christine Hobbs I live in SA, so obviously cant get to these grafting sessions. It would be good to be able to access some of the older varieties, also would be good to have several on one or two trees ranging from early in the season to late in the season, so there is a succession of fruit, instead of a big glut as often happens & then often the fruit gets wasted because you dont have enough hours in a day to do things with them like preserves etc. Is there a list of the names of these old ones.17 January at 23:06 ·
Neville Burley It was a great day :)
18 January at 06:14 ·
Neil Barraclough Why do the books recommend a cleft or wedge graft for grafting evergreens? Because the wood is too soft for a whip and tongue to hold the scion on. I prefer a whip and tongue graft to a wedge graft so do a normal whip and tongue with such things as avocado's and put a cloths peg on the top of the graft to hold it till the bottom of the graft is held with tape, then take the peg off and finish tying the graft.
17 January at 22:31 ·
Christine Hobbs I live in SA, so obviously cant get to these grafting sessions. It would be good to be able to access some of the older varieties, also would be good to have several on one or two trees ranging from early in the season to late in the season, so there is a succession of fruit, instead of a big glut as often happens & then often the fruit gets wasted because you dont have enough hours in a day to do things with them like preserves etc. Is there a list of the names of these old ones.17 January at 23:06 ·
Neville Burley It was a great day :)
18 January at 06:14 ·
Neil Barraclough Why do the books recommend a cleft or wedge graft for grafting evergreens? Because the wood is too soft for a whip and tongue to hold the scion on. I prefer a whip and tongue graft to a wedge graft so do a normal whip and tongue with such things as avocado's and put a cloths peg on the top of the graft to hold it till the bottom of the graft is held with tape, then take the peg off and finish tying the graft.
Philip O'Kelly I hope you were able to use the peach and apricot trees I sent in with Sharon. I couldn't make it yesterday.
18 January at 07:49 ·
Terry Frewin A question Neil, Neville et al - I hear you about leaving some leaves on the avo rootstock - however I lost a small avo tree last winter so I dug it up and put the rootstock into a pot. It grew a couple of weak -ish stems above the original graft
union. I knew at the time that it was probably a mistake but thought I'd try anyway - I cut through the rootstock below the original graft and cleft grafted a piece of the good Marraweeney seedling avo onto it. Of course there are no leaves on the rootstock.....so, any idea of my chances of success in this case? I've covered it with a plastic bag of course loosely tied, and it's shaded.
18 January at 07:56 ·
Neil Barraclough Chances should still be good Terry, Neville Burley had to graft an avocado very low yesterday because it was so thin and it still should have a good chance. There is a bit of a view that you should remove all the leaves from below the graft, we're saying just don't dash into it and let the leaves get a bit of size on them first but it circumstances don't allow it then don't stress. The seedlings were fantastic thanks Philip, a few people growing and potting up some seedlings made peoples day as they could all take home a grafted tree, well done mate.
18 January at 16:57 ·
Laura Duck I was hugely appreciative that I could bring what I had to trade for plants
18 January at 19:44 ·
Philip O'Kelly Hey Laura got plenty of fruit trees here if you want any.
18 January at 19:55 ·
Neville Burley What do you have Philip O'Kelly just as a matter of interest?
18 January at 20:45 ·
Philip O'Kelly Peach and apricot if anyone wants them or swap for something else.
18 January at 21:28 ·
18 January at 07:49 ·
Terry Frewin A question Neil, Neville et al - I hear you about leaving some leaves on the avo rootstock - however I lost a small avo tree last winter so I dug it up and put the rootstock into a pot. It grew a couple of weak -ish stems above the original graft
union. I knew at the time that it was probably a mistake but thought I'd try anyway - I cut through the rootstock below the original graft and cleft grafted a piece of the good Marraweeney seedling avo onto it. Of course there are no leaves on the rootstock.....so, any idea of my chances of success in this case? I've covered it with a plastic bag of course loosely tied, and it's shaded.
18 January at 07:56 ·
Neil Barraclough Chances should still be good Terry, Neville Burley had to graft an avocado very low yesterday because it was so thin and it still should have a good chance. There is a bit of a view that you should remove all the leaves from below the graft, we're saying just don't dash into it and let the leaves get a bit of size on them first but it circumstances don't allow it then don't stress. The seedlings were fantastic thanks Philip, a few people growing and potting up some seedlings made peoples day as they could all take home a grafted tree, well done mate.
18 January at 16:57 ·
Laura Duck I was hugely appreciative that I could bring what I had to trade for plants
18 January at 19:44 ·
Philip O'Kelly Hey Laura got plenty of fruit trees here if you want any.
18 January at 19:55 ·
Neville Burley What do you have Philip O'Kelly just as a matter of interest?
18 January at 20:45 ·
Philip O'Kelly Peach and apricot if anyone wants them or swap for something else.
18 January at 21:28 ·
- Christine Hobbs Out of curiosity I went looking fro a list of the named old varieties of apricots, I found this list & below the main list is another list of known varieties that ddi exist, but no longer found. I do wonder how many of these old lost ones may still be out there somewhere in old gardens, I do know apricots are not a long lived fruit tree, but if someone had grow these from the seeds, would they be true to form?? They may have been regenerated that way, but who would know, as I am guessing no one living now would be able to identify these old lost ones.
http://www.heritagefruitssociety.org.au/apricotsHeritage Fruits Society - Apricots - Neil Barraclough Similar on our website- http://heritageandrarefruits.weebly.com/apricots.htmlApricots 18 January at 22:51 ·
- Christine Hobbs I found it interesting that one of the farms mentioned a Mr Thiele being the property owner, He could perhaps be related to me, I go back to the very early days of colonization of SA & Theile's which I have coming in on my family tree twice were on the first shipments of migrants .18 January at 23:07 ·
- Neil Barraclough The leaves all fell neatly where they meet the stem off one of the avocado grafts I am looking after, this is a good sign and with reasonable care the graft is expected to take.
Neil Barraclough On the other graft I did the leaf I left above the graft dried up but stayed on the stem, it's best chance would be if we all joined in collective prayer, not unhappy with 50% as the rootstocks had recently bee repotted and avocado's need to be growing vigorously to get good results but will check how Neville Burley went and if he got 100% will try removing all the leaves as he does.
Neville Burley I don't normally remove all the leaves, just had to on one of them because the trunk diameter was so small I had to graft below the branch start point. I had several take with leaves below and I gradually remove them as the scion gets going.
7 February at 23:29 · Like · 1
Laura Duck What's the feedback on mine?
10 February at 21:01 ·
Neville Burley I don't normally remove all the leaves, just had to on one of them because the trunk diameter was so small I had to graft below the branch start point. I had several take with leaves below and I gradually remove them as the scion gets going.
7 February at 23:29 · Like · 1
Laura Duck What's the feedback on mine?
10 February at 21:01 ·
Neil Barraclough Take the plastic bag off it and keep it well watered and shaded tomorow. Hopefully the leaf will fall off neatly when you take the bag off and that is a good sign. A light dose of fertilizer will help, err on the light side though.
10 February at 21:04 ·
Laura Duck Ok cool
10 February at 21:19 ·
Steve Burns Was this day advertised anywhere? I'd like to attend similar next year..
10 February at 21:49 ·
Ben Waite there is the budding day in Werribbee next week Steve. A little different to green grafting but still a chance to get a few trees
10 February at 21:55 ·
Neville Burley This was run through our Meerlieu group. It looks like my graft may have taken so I'm 3/4 so far for avocados
10 February at 22:29 ·